2023 Austrian Grand Prix

We're not even a third of the way in and three drivers already have track limit penalties. This is getting ridiculous. Thankfully this seems to be track specific and maybe we won't see as much of this next race.
 
Doc Austin said:
We're not even a third of the way in and three drivers already have track limit penalties. This is getting ridiculous. Thankfully this seems to be track specific and maybe we won't see as much of this next race.
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Just let'em run wide, no one gains an advantage when everyone is allowed to do it.
 
donthaveanickname said:
Just let'em run wide, no one gains an advantage when everyone is allowed to do it.
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Like Max says, they look like a bunch of amateurs. If there was grass there I'de say let them run wide and deal with that on their own.

For Silverstone they may as well give the entire field a 5 second penalty and get it over with.

Toto to Lewis: "Lewis, we know the car is bad. Please just drive it."
 
Gotta be a highly encouraging race for Ferrari and McLaren but the fact that Max could allow himself an additional stop shows how far ahead Red Bull still is.
Great runs by Chuck and Lando, Perez with a great recovery from 15th to 3rd, hopefully people will stop trying to fire him for now.
 
Be fun to see if Max will over take the 9 wins in a row
that Vettel had with Red Bull in 2013.
 
Premier league in all of auto racing cant even keep up with their own joke system.

Apparantly they had so much reporting for track infrigements that they stopped looking and are now looking through 1200 reports and more penalties are definitely coming.
 
Reck said:
Premier league in all of auto racing cant even keep up with their own joke system.

Apparantly they had so much reporting for track infrigements that they stopped looking and are now looking through 1200 reports and more penalties are definitely coming.
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Absurd. They need a physical deterrent…paint won’t cut it.
 
Reck said:
Premier league in all of auto racing cant even keep up with their own joke system.

Apparantly they had so much reporting for track infrigements that they stopped looking and are now looking through 1200 reports and more penalties are definitely coming.
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20 cars in the field running 71 laps equals 1420 laps run in total, minus Hülkenberg's DNF and a bunch of cars getting lapped.
That's pretty much one infringement per car every lap.
 
Update, the following penalties have been added:
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This is the updated result:
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FIA hands out 12 penalties for track limit offences after F1 Austrian GP

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West said:
Yes, grass or gravel. Any penalty should be made by the car spinning out not some guy in the booth.
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Apparently F1 pressured track management to add gravel traps but were told they need to keep the asphalt runoffs for MotoGP.
That doesn't make sense at all, MotoGP races at several tracks without asphalt runoff areas.
 
donthaveanickname said:
Apparently F1 pressured track management to add gravel traps but were told they need to keep the asphalt runoffs for MotoGP.
That doesn't make sense at all, MotoGP races at several tracks without asphalt runoff areas.
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Kinda sounds like a case of the track not wanting to open up the checkbook and giving some BS excuse to keep the FIA from badgering them about it.
 
FLRacingFan said:
After watching it again I really think most of the blame here can be attributed to the visibility/conditions. I don’t know if FRECA has onboard marshaling systems like many other single seater series, but that looked like there were three separate incidents in succession, the fatal impact coming in the third, well after any FCY/red flag should have been displayed. It looked like most of the field just didn’t slow. The visibility through the rain was definitely not good enough to see the incident from a driver POV at those speeds without some sort of message on the steering wheel.

It’s hard for me to imagine why they’d go back green for a 1- or 2-lap shootout in that situation.
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Late to the discussion on this one.

This has been my thought on blind corners....

Overhead caution lights. Take the traditional highway overhead gantries. Put relatively large light indicators on them. Place them every hundred feet or so before/through blind areas of racetracks. When yellow happens, light the thing up. BUT... also.... only illuminate the side where the hazard is. Ex- there's a stalled car on the right side of the track coming up, flash the right side of the gantry lights yellow and the other side green. You can do a ton with this, IMO. Put it in at Macau or the tight sections of Nashville street circuit. Track is blocked ahead? Flash red lights so cars can stop safely before piling into disabled cars.

Not saying we destroy beautiful racetracks with these things, but this kind of idea would be perfect for Eau Rouge. We're talking 4 or 5 of these things from pit exit through the hill. Massive safety improvement, a lot more communicative than marshals waving flags a hundred feet away, and really inexpensive to implement.
 
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