View Full Version : Nascar can Go To Hell
RustyMillerTime
07-07-2002, 05:12 AM
for waving a yellow when tony spun out it was no damn debri on the track cause tony did'n hit nothing.All Nascar wanted was to bunch the field back together so they can have the big one Mike Helton and all in the front office can go to hell.:mad:
Awesome_Bill
07-07-2002, 05:13 AM
I agree that not only risked several drivers lives...but cost my driver Bill Elliott 8 positions. Not to mention the front runners it took out.
Annie-8fan
07-07-2002, 05:14 AM
And why would nascar want the big one??
DE Wrangler 2
07-07-2002, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by Annie-8fan
And why would nascar want the big one??
Great point annie
Devil's Advocate here for a moment....
Maybe they want the big one because it gets NASCAR on all the TV shows and newspapers that don't usually mention NASCAR at all?
Awesome_Bill
07-07-2002, 05:19 AM
RATINGS RATINGS RATINGS...paul I agree
Annie-8fan
07-07-2002, 05:20 AM
Originally posted by paul
Devil's Advocate here for a moment....
Maybe they want the big one because it gets NASCAR on all the TV shows and newspapers that don't usually mention NASCAR at all?
of course if nascar was going to do that ~wouldn't they have let junior or gordon win- better coverage.
DE Wrangler 2
07-07-2002, 05:20 AM
Okay, Paul.......that may be the case!! Can't argue there but if the big one produced another fatality that is not something they would want........I'm pretty they would have thought of that.:)
rajflyboy
07-07-2002, 05:20 AM
They wanted the caution to make sure their pud boys Jr and Mikey were all set to take it too the finish !!!!!!!
Coverage is coverage.
Still playing Devil's Advocate.
DE Wrangler 2
07-07-2002, 05:21 AM
All this conspiracy crap is just that........C R A P!!!:)
Originally posted by DE Wrangler 2
Okay, Paul.......that may be the case!! Can't argue there but if the big one produced another fatality that is not something they would want........I'm pretty they would have thought of that.:)
NASCAR's popularity exploded after Dale's death.
Devil's Advocate.
Annie-8fan
07-07-2002, 05:23 AM
Michael had the best car tonite- of course he was there at the end-
DE Wrangler 2
07-07-2002, 05:23 AM
Not completely true Paul........NASCAR was rising in popularity a couple years before!! Why would FOX and NBC pay such high premiums for coverage if not?:D
LooneyToonRacer
07-07-2002, 05:35 AM
I wouldn't say Dale's death caused the increase in fans but I would say that there are more Dale Sr. fans out there now after Dale's death. IMO
Annie-8fan
07-07-2002, 05:36 AM
Originally posted by LooneyToonRacer
I wouldn't say Dale's death caused the increase in fans but I would say that there are more Dale Sr. fans out there now after Dale's death. IMO
I'm interested about why you feel like that ? thanks
DE Wrangler 2
07-07-2002, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by LooneyToonRacer
I wouldn't say Dale's death caused the increase in fans but I would say that there are more Dale Sr. fans out there now after Dale's death. IMO
Not bashing anyone now!! :D
But us old time Dale Earnhardt fans call all those recent fans (after his death) "Johnny Come Latelys"!! :D
LooneyToonRacer
07-07-2002, 05:43 AM
I'm interested about why you feel like that ? thanks
Because I have been a Dale Sr. fan since the mid 80's and there was never as many fans of him back then, then there is now. Dale was usually the one getting bashed all the time like Gordon does now.
Awesome_Bill
07-07-2002, 05:45 AM
I thought all of Sr's fans flocked to JR...guess i was wrong.
racerx11
07-07-2002, 05:47 AM
Originally posted by rajflyboy
They wanted the caution to make sure their pud boys Jr and Mikey were all set to take it too the finish !!!!!!!
They were all set to win prior to the caution.
Annie-8fan
07-07-2002, 05:48 AM
Originally posted by LooneyToonRacer
Because I have been a Dale Sr. fan since the mid 80's and there was never as many fans of him back then, then there is now. Dale was usually the one getting bashed all the time like Gordon does now.
I only found nascar in the mid 90's and i started being a dale fan because i saw him with brooks and dunn and i liked his personality,so i missed alot of good things and thankfully i missed the bashing.
racerx11
07-07-2002, 05:52 AM
I was never a sr fan and still aint. I do however admirer what he has acomplished.
pettyfan4life
07-08-2002, 03:05 AM
Annie Nascar would want the big one for more money...COMMERCIAL TIME..they got to kill time during red flags and the yellow to thepoint they will get more money in it
4xchampncountin
07-08-2002, 03:14 AM
Paul...I think you hit the nail on the head. Coverage is Coverage. The way I understand NASCAR advertising, every second a sponsors name is on the telecast they get to charge that sponsor for. Therefore, when they get to show replay after replay after replay it gets them more money.
Also...When was the last time you saw a great finish to a race get so much airtime on Sports Highlight programs like SportsCenter, etc.? I must have seen the Big One from last night a dozen times on these types of programs.
mlitefan01
07-08-2002, 05:57 PM
There is a simple solution to the erratic throwing of the red flags; don't count caution laps if there are less than 10 to go. No more question whether or not there is enough time to throw a red. It would also add a bit more planning on the crew chiefs part as far as fuel mileage goes.
pbunch
07-08-2002, 06:46 PM
Why don't they red flag every race with ten to go,and serve cold drinks,and peanuts to the drivers.Then we would know were Nascar stands period. :P
I wonder what na$car will do about the fans on the back stretch that throw all that stuff on the track?
rajflyboy
07-08-2002, 07:30 PM
clean the mess up before Next February !!!!!!
pbunch
07-08-2002, 07:36 PM
By next Feb.We will all be chomping at the bit for some racing,That this race will have been forgotten for the most part. ;)
HardScrabble
07-08-2002, 07:59 PM
Truer words never been, pbunch!:D
mlitefan01
07-08-2002, 08:20 PM
Nascar President Mike Helton announced today that fines will be levied against all fans that were found to have thrown garbage onto the back stretch following the running of the Pepsi 400 this past Saturday. Helton cited "actions that can be deemed detrimental to sport of Nascar" as the reason for the fines. On a totally unrelated subject Helton was to have put a down payment on a small island in the South Pacific. :)
pbunch
07-08-2002, 08:34 PM
Only one thing wrong Milerlite in this posting,It better be a big island :P
TexasRaceLady
07-08-2002, 08:37 PM
NASCAR is in a no-win situation with this one. The drivers are grateful that no red was thrown because that could have been disastrous. But, the "fans"(and I use that term loosely) are angry because they didn't get to see "racing" to the finish.
I am glad/happy/ecstatic that the red wasn't thrown. I'd had enough wrecking for one evening.
4xchamp---- very true words. You never see the race to the finish, you only see the wrecks. :(
mlitefan01
07-08-2002, 08:50 PM
you know it wasn't too many years ago when it wasn't unusual to see a race finish under yellow. Back before it became such a "show" Take it back to the way it was I say
TexasRaceLady
07-08-2002, 08:53 PM
Amen, mlitefan. Not too long ago, either. True followers of racing knew that yellow flag endings some times happened.
DE won his 500 under yellow. I don't recall anyone booing and throwing chit on the track.
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